It's gone

[Quinn]

There goes another to the coupe, coming down 414 and the oil pressure drops and comes back up and now she's knocking. Really pissed off about it and don't know what to do. I'm not taking another motor out and putting another one in and that's for sure.

[Wayne's 88 GT]

There goes another to the coupe, coming down 414 and the oil pressure drops and comes back up and now she's knocking. Really pissed off about it and don't know what to do. I'm not taking another motor out and putting another one in and that's for sure.

Dude....that sucks to hear. I know your pissed right now........but you would be better off to fix what you got rather than ditch this one and get into something else. Who did the engine assembly......I would get with them and see what they can do with it.

[Quinn]

Dude....that sucks to hear. I know your pissed right now........but you would be better off to fix what you got rather than ditch this one and get into something else. Who did the engine assembly......I would get with them and see what they can do with it.

I'm gonna talk to him tomorrow but i really need somthing to drive. i can't go another month without my car or spend anymore money.

[Bizarro]

ok lets get a little more detail here~!

1st. WHAT WERE YOU DOING?????

2nd. does the oil go up an down continuously or did it just happen ONCE?

3rd. describe the "knock" now... can you locat it? if so where is it coming from... top of motor or bottom???

4th. what oil pump AND oil pump shaft are you running?

5th. has it lost power or drivablity in anyway?

6th. are you leaking oil now?

7th. what were you wearing at the time of the occurrence??


answer these an maybe we can work through this, dont throw her in the trash JUST YET! :thumbsup1:

[Quinn]

ok lets get a little more detail here~!

1st. WHAT WERE YOU DOING?????

2nd. does the oil go up an down continuously or did it just happen ONCE?

3rd. describe the "knock" now... can you locat it? if so where is it coming from... top of motor or bottom???

4th. what oil pump AND oil pump shaft are you running?

5th. has it lost power or drivablity in anyway?

6th. are you leaking oil now?

answer these an maybe we can work through this, dont throw her in the trash JUST YET! :thumbsup1:

i spun out of the driveway this morning but not hard but when it started knocking i was cruising down hwy. 414.

it just dropped to 10 and back up to about 50

it's the bottom end and it dont do it until you get to 2200 rpm so i think it spun a rod bearing

don't know what oil pump

it's still driveable and has all it's power

not leaking any oil that i know of but it was dark and i limped it home

[vcr12564]

Sorry to hear that.

[1wildcoupe]

ok lets get a little more detail here~!

1st. WHAT WERE YOU DOING?????

2nd. does the oil go up an down continuously or did it just happen ONCE?

3rd. describe the "knock" now... can you locat it? if so where is it coming from... top of motor or bottom???

4th. what oil pump AND oil pump shaft are you running?

5th. has it lost power or drivablity in anyway?

6th. are you leaking oil now?

7th. what were you wearing at the time of the occurrence??


answer these an maybe we can work through this, dont throw her in the trash JUST YET! :thumbsup1:

and WTF does this have to do with it???:lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1:

[Bizarro]

you can have a new bearing put in it in about 3 hours from park to driving again!

[Quinn]

you can have a new bearing put in it in about 3 hours from park to driving again!

do you think that's what it is, i really don't want to get rid of the car b/c it's nice as hell but i can't go another month without a car and i just spent 1200 getting this motor in there

[Bizarro]

and WTF does this have to do with it???:lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1:

hey you never know!!!.... :taunt: LMAO!

[midnight stang]

:sad1: sorry to hear I hope the guy that did it helps you out!

[Quinn]

i'm sure he will but i will kno for sure in the morning

[Bizarro]

do you think that's what it is, i really don't want to get rid of the car b/c it's nice as hell but i can't go another month without a car and i just spent 1200 getting this motor in there


well lets see........

you have a brand new motor..... its not even a DAY old before your hammering on it......... YEA...from what ive read here lately
http://www.southeasternfoxbodies.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5504

more than likely... youve spun a bearing.

no big deal! it happens to the best of us :thumbsup1:

Now that its done.... F@%$#&ING MAN UP AN FIX THE DO@%$&MN THING!!!!! STOP PISSING AN MOANING.....YOU COULD PULL A ALL NIGHTER AN HAVE IT ONTHE ROAD IN THE MORNING!!!! :angry::angry::angry:

[Quinn]

well lets see........

you have a brand new motor..... its not even a DAY old before your hammering on it......... YEA...from what ive read here lately
http://www.southeasternfoxbodies.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5504

more than likely... youve spun a bearing.

no big deal! it happens to the best of us :thumbsup1:

Now that its done.... F@%$#&ING MAN UP AN FIX THE DO@%$&MN THING!!!!! STOP PISSING AN MOANING.....YOU COULD PULL A ALL NIGHTER AN HAVE IT ONTHE ROAD IN THE MORNING!!!! :angry::angry::angry:


not really hammering on it to hard. he said not to hammer on it until you got atleast 200 miles on it, i had 230 at that time

[midnight stang]

[QUOTE=bizarro306;69850]well lets see........

YOU COULD PULL A ALL NIGHTER AN HAVE IT ONTHE ROAD IN THE MORNING!!!!
done that more times than anyone should:yes1:the neighbors love those 4am stright header fire ups lol!!!!!!!!!!!:unknowndriver:

[93GTVert]

[QUOTE=bizarro306;69850]well lets see........

YOU COULD PULL A ALL NIGHTER AN HAVE IT ONTHE ROAD IN THE MORNING!!!!
done that more times than anyone should:yes1:the neighbors love those 4am stright header fire ups lol!!!!!!!!!!!:unknowndriver:

:lol1::lol1: That sucks man. Don't give-up. :thumbsup1:

[Mustang Leo]

Hey guy I have done worse. My budy told me the same thing after i built my engine. Pulled out of the shop and could not resist. Less than 300 miles later ALL of my mains and rod bearings were shot. Lesson learned. The good news is I stopped her in time to not damage the crank. MY mechanic located on tigerville road got all the bearings replaced with the engine in the car. She has been good to go since. I waited 300 miles or so before she got the hammer this time. It was a disappointing lesson that cost me 350 extra bucks. Sorry bout the bad news.

Leo

[93GTVert]

My dad replaced the bearings of his old 69' mach 1 along time ago by dropping the oil pan and taking them out from under the car.

[Quinn]

yea that's how i did my integra type r clone about 2 months ago. it spun a rod bearing about 2 hours after driving it off the car lot

[Bizarro]

if i sold my mustang everytime something like this happened to me i would be on like my 40-50th car by now!!!!!
never pays to tuck tail an run!... stick it out, learn from it an keep on going! :thumbsup1:

[Notch93]

That sucks to hear Brandon.:thumbsdown1: Did the guy that built the motor for you, put new bearings and oil pump in?

[Quinn]

That sucks to hear Brandon.:thumbsdown1: Did the guy that built the motor for you, put new bearings and oil pump in?

i know he put new bearings but i don't know about the oil pump, i'm thinking that's what messed the other motor up. i took the oil cap off and i see some metal shavings on the head?

[Mustang Leo]

yea that's how i did my integra type r clone about 2 months ago. it spun a rod bearing about 2 hours after driving it off the car lot

HMMM

[kdawgg11]

Sorry to hear that man stay strong

[Wayne's 88 GT]

if i sold my mustang everytime something like this happened to me i would be on like my 40-50th car by now!!!!!
never pays to tuck tail an run!... stick it out, learn from it an keep on going! :thumbsup1:


X2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :yes1:

[89 ragger]

in reality the breakin time for a motor is to alow a new valve train to settle in. think about it, the bearings and the crank are seperated by oil , they should never touch . did you have the crank bore and rods checked when the motor was built. i built short track motors ,let them idol at 1500 for 30 min to settle the valve train, then take it to the track and twist it to6300 and never have a problem. sounds like a tolerence issue. hope u find what the problem is without spending a ton.:patriot:

[Quinn]

in reality the breakin time for a motor is to alow a new valve train to settle in. think about it, the bearings and the crank are seperated by oil , they should never touch . did you have the crank bore and rods checked when the motor was built. i built short track motors ,let them idol at 1500 for 30 min to settle the valve train, then take it to the track and twist it to6300 and never have a problem. sounds like a tolerence issue. hope u find what the problem is without spending a ton.:patriot:

it was ran for 20 minutes like the guy said at 1500 rpm, twice before i even got to drive it, not saying i'm running from the car, if some one had a nice hatch or gt that wanted a coupe i would trade but it would have to be nice. i don't have the money to throw back out to fix the car especially if i want to go to mustang week

[89 ragger]

what grade of oil do you run . and did you change it after 100 mi. when you take a motor apart you will get debris in there even if you are carfull , let alone cleaning solvents from a rebuild. :patriot:

[Quinn]

what grade of oil do you run . and did you change it after 100 mi. when you take a motor apart you will get debris in there even if you are carfull , let alone cleaning solvents from a rebuild. :patriot:

he said run it about 200 and change the oil but it's got abotu 250 on it when this happened, i used the castrol gtx

[Badass1993]

in reality the breakin time for a motor is to alow a new valve train to settle in. think about it, the bearings and the crank are seperated by oil , they should never touch . did you have the crank bore and rods checked when the motor was built. i built short track motors ,let them idol at 1500 for 30 min to settle the valve train, then take it to the track and twist it to6300 and never have a problem. sounds like a tolerence issue. hope u find what the problem is without spending a ton.:patriot:

+1 we takes our straight to the track,mainly to seat the rings in.....Never heard of one having bearing faliure after just 250 miles,unless there is a mechanical falure (i.e. oil pump locked up) or the clearances werent in check.

[Quinn]

+1 we takes our straight to the track,mainly to seat the rings in.....Never heard of one having bearing faliure after just 250 miles,unless there is a mechanical falure (i.e. oil pump locked up) or the clearances werent in check.

i think the old oil pump was reused, the oil pressure fluxuates some

[93mustang2.3t]

have you found out what the problem is yet?

[Wayne's 88 GT]

i think the old oil pump was reused, the oil pressure fluxuates some

Chalk this one up to experience.......if you are going to do major work to an engine......spend the extra $$$$ for a oil pump and pump shaft........very cheap insurance esp with the engine out of it......a oil pump and shaft can be had for around 40-75 bucks.......sucks to hear you have a problem with it......but just ride around in the truck for a little and get the coupe fixed........:yes1:. if you need anything let me know

[XSR]

If the oil pump was reused, that's just plain foolish. A nice pump is around $50-$60, and that's the life line of a motor. Most people that build motors tell people to put miles on them before getting on them, is tring to buy time on their work. We build motors, and go straight to the track, and run the piss out of them. The only thing you have to do is let the rings seat(usually within the first 15mins of run time), and if you have a flat tappet cam, it has to be broken in right. Other than that, the bearings do not need a break in. If someone rebuilt the motor, and used a old oilpump, I would hold them responsible!!! Unless they got your ok on this, but I want even rebuild a motor for someone if they are going to reuse the old pump. Mainly because of problems like this! I know of some that believe in rebuilding the pumps themselves, and have good luck out of them.

[Badass1993]

If the oil pump was reused, that's just plain foolish. A nice pump is around $50-$60, and that's the life line of a motor. Most people that build motors tell people to put miles on them before getting on them, is tring to buy time on their work. We build motors, and go straight to the track, and run the piss out of them. The only thing you have to do is let the rings seat(usually within the first 15mins of run time), and if you have a flat tappet cam, it has to be broken in right. Other than that, the bearings do not need a break in. If someone rebuilt the motor, and used a old oilpump, I would hold them responsible!!! Unless they got your ok on this, but I want even rebuild a motor for someone if they are going to reuse the old pump. Mainly because of problems like this! I know of some that believe in rebuilding the pumps themselves, and have good luck out of them.

well spoken:yes1:

[midnight stang]

If the oil pump was reused, that's just plain foolish. A nice pump is around $50-$60, and that's the life line of a motor. Most people that build motors tell people to put miles on them before getting on them, is tring to buy time on their work. We build motors, and go straight to the track, and run the piss out of them. The only thing you have to do is let the rings seat(usually within the first 15mins of run time), and if you have a flat tappet cam, it has to be broken in right. Other than that, the bearings do not need a break in. If someone rebuilt the motor, and used a old oilpump, I would hold them responsible!!! Unless they got your ok on this, but I want even rebuild a motor for someone if they are going to reuse the old pump. Mainly because of problems like this! I know of some that believe in rebuilding the pumps themselves, and have good luck out of them.

X2

[Quinn]

well he is gonna fix the motor but i have to take it out and put it back in:angry::angry::angry:, it pisses me off b/c now it won't be done for track day and i got to pay some one to put the motor back in after i just spent the money getting them to do that

[Mustang Leo]

Need to clarify my earlier post, My brand new Melling HV oil pump locked down causing my oil pump shaft to shatter. Melling said it was not their fault after looking at it for 6 weeks. Still have not figured out why a new pump would lock down like that. Had new screen and was pre primed before install. melling gave new pump and Bucks threww in new bearings at cost. :sad1: I remember the feelings well when she went down so soon after getting her running. I almost commited sacriledge and traded her off for a camaro. Step back, consider your options, then go ahead and fix her. Remember, if it does not kill you, it will make you stronger.

Leo

[TappedOut]

if i sold my mustang everytime something like this happened to me i would be on like my 40-50th car by now!!!!!
never pays to tuck tail an run!... stick it out, learn from it an keep on going! :thumbsup1:

Good advise! I let my 2000 sit for a bit and I regretted it for sure. <<spun bearing...... :hi:

[Quinn]

i started tearing it apart a 530 by myself until my dad got home at 7 and we had it in the back of the truck at 830 so it's on it's way to the machine shop 8 oclock in the morning

[Wayne's 88 GT]

i started tearing it apart a 530 by myself until my dad got home at 7 and we had it in the back of the truck at 830 so it's on it's way to the machine shop 8 oclock in the morning

Thats good to hear.....maybe you'll have her back together for Saturday......even if you don't run it. :pray:

[Quinn]

Thats good to hear.....maybe you'll have her back together for Saturday......even if you don't run it. :pray:

i'll be itching to run it if i have it done by then but i will not run it b/c i can't afford to redo another one

[Mustang Leo]

Excellent choice

[Quinn]

Excellent choice

i guess i really like this stang b/c usually i would get rid of it instead of fixing it:yes1::yes1: