whats new!!!!!

[badluckpony]

Got my alt and cam today from badass1993.Left work early was like hell yea getting my car back running today.Well i put the alt on.Put the jumper cables on.Fired the car off kept it at 1500 to warm up and it cuts off and want start back.Checked the fuel thats good.Did check the fire tho.What could it be

[speedys87gt]

how about the ignition switch?

[badluckpony]

the car turns over switch is good it hits and acts like it wants to start but want

[badluckpony]

could it be the dizzy lol

[slonomo]

if its firing thats probably not it

[badluckpony]

the last time it acted like it wanted to start it popped.

[speedys87gt]

could it possibly be something with the IAC valve? Not sure.....just thinking outloud.

[badluckpony]

i dont no this is the first efi car ive had. I dont no **** about efi or what your talkin about lol

[slonomo]

heve you checked to see if ya got good fuel pressure?

[badluckpony]

yepper comes out pretty good right before it goes into the intake. First thing i looked at:thumbsup1:

[slonomo]

first thing you need to do is check for spark,

[badluckpony]

spark meaning get a can of gas and a good spark lol. and run

[speedys87gt]

IAC valve = Idle Air Control valve.....mounted on the front side of the throttlebody. I know it can cause some issues with starting and idling. Can be aggrevating.

[slonomo]

you could have fried the module on the dizzy while boosting it,unlikley though .you had it running.

[slonomo]

trade ya

[badluckpony]

yea just died after a few sec of running.went to a 140amp alt could if of fried something

[slonomo]

IAC valve = Idle Air Control valve.....mounted on the front side of the throttlebody. I know it can cause some issues with starting and idling. Can be aggrevating.
could be right,only if its stuck full open.

[badluckpony]

took it off last week was fine if your talking about the thing that bolts to the front side of the t.b with the plug in.Cleaned and made sure it as working right.

[slonomo]

did that alt plug right up,or is it possible that you wired it up wrong

[badluckpony]

only had one wire. to the hot side of the coil.

[slonomo]

again ,are you sure its firing

[badluckpony]

going to check now

[badluckpony]

car is getting spark :yes1::angry: lol beat on the IAC valve took it off to see if something was wrong did see anything.Put it back on car did try to start then but didnt

[BYEBYE2U]

i'm feeling more like it's you're fuel pump. and it'll show good pressure but it won't run.sometimes it'll crank but if it is weak it can't pump fuel enough to run it

[badluckpony]

pump is new less than 1 month old

[redtang93]

got any starting fluid. just take the intake tube off and spray a little but put it back on before you crank it. don't spray a bunch just a little. if it run you know it is not getting fuel

[badluckpony]

its getting fuel.The valve before it goes up to the to the intake.Has fuel and pressure there.Checked that sprays out good

[Badass1993]

its getting fuel.The valve before it goes up to the to the intake.Has fuel and pressure there.Checked that sprays out good

It could have jumped time......

[badluckpony]

It could be a pos:taunt::bat::angry::yes1:

[slonomo]

could be something simple

[badluckpony]

like what we talked about that part is 90$

[redtang93]

i'll buy it for 50.00 dollars lol :hi::lol1:

[badluckpony]

what the car lol

[redtang93]

yeah you said you were ready to sell it. lol :lol1::lol1:

[Wayne's 88 GT]

Ok the new alternator has one wire......but the one you had on there before had how many wires? Did you retrace your steps as far as what you undid to get the alternator off and make sure everything is connected?

Also checking the schrader valve on the fuel rail isn't a true measure of having the correct fuel pressure in the lines......you may need to hook up a fuel pressure gauge and make sure how much you have.

Don't let it get you down......it may just be something simple......

[badluckpony]

i done what chuck told me to do.Toook my alt off.Taped up the 3 wires and placed out of the way along with the computer plug in wire.Fuel comes out like it always has like before when i checked it when i first put the new f.p in

[188slo50]

It sounds like timing , being that you jump started it dosent sound like something got burnt up cause it ran . When the car cut off did it just fall on its face or did it act like it ran out of gas. Another thing check the plugs and see what they look like. I'd check the simple common sense stuff first.

[badluckpony]

was running fine and it was like you just cut it off.But i didnt.Tried to start back acted like it wanted to just popped a few times then it didnt do **** but turn over

[badluckpony]

the timing chain did have a little play in it when i put the new timing chain cover on.

[Sphinxmunkey]

So yeh I had a disty in wrong after a rebuild once and it popped and popped and didn't start, took me about 2 hours to figure it out.... but I got another car cheap b/c of it and fixed it in within a hour of troubleshooting since I'd had the symptoms before. But if you haven't had it out since the car was running then that's not your problem.

trade ya

:lol1: that car is awesome, just the right amount of go power meanness and mpg for a daily beater.


And it really is a shame you don't live closer to cola. If you've got fuel to the rail and spark at the plugs then you should get SOMETHING unless your TB is stuck closed and you're not getting air. Does the exhaust reek of fuel after you crank it over a couple times? Making sure your injectors are still pulsing, their on a fuse right? I haven't had injector problems with a mustang but I know probes are, I've had about 5 of each :)

So if you have fuel spark and air then you're screwed and you need to trade Robert for the red one, cuz it looks cool already :thumbsup1:

[Sphinxmunkey]

A little play is normal with age, how much play is the ?

You can always pop a valve cover off and see if the rockers go when you turn it over, tell you if your timing is popped. This assuming it would be popped and not just skipped and your cover doesn't have a hole in it from said popping :)

[slonomo]

and it also runs................:lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1:

[speedys87gt]

I know of an easy way to check the IAC valve.......but it has to be running. Id say check the timing. Sounds like that could be a possibility since its popping.

[badluckpony]

tried to start the pos before i put the new part on the t.b wouldnt do anything.So i put the part on and the thing starts runs for 30sec and cuts off again.Now its doing the same thing again fuel pumps runs and getting fire but want start.So its up for sale tired of working on it

[badluckpony]

set the timing too. so what could it be

[slonomo]

For sure its not the iac,may be even a broken wire ,you need to get someone there that is familiar with those cars.dont keep throwing parts at it.

[slonomo]

Are you sure you didnt damage any wires when you hooked the wire up for the alt.the are several fuse links......

[badluckpony]

looked still want do anything :bat::angry::pray:for the car

[Wayne's 88 GT]

What about the TFI module on the side of the Distributor? did you check that? if that goes bad it sure wont run

[badluckpony]

idk what that is the car is getting spark tho. and would start then cut off keyword would

[tripps88]

The TFI is the little black box on the front of the dizzy that has about a 7 wire plug going to it if the plug is in rough shape or the TFI is going out it could cause the issues you are having idk.

[badluckpony]

im lost lol... liked my msd stuff lol wire the box one plug to the dizzy and your running
need someone to come by and look at it

[tripps88]

Check this link it says for truck's / Bronco's but still should apply as far as the test goes

http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/TFI_Diagnostic.html

[badluckpony]

idk

[Badass1993]

I would check the TFI module too....they do tend to short out from time to time,and will defently cause the car to cut off and not start...but crank after its been sitting a while......Did you say you had a MSD on the car????? If so unhook it and with it back up like its stock.....If the MSD box has gone bad,it can do the same thing....More than likely your problem is ingnition related.......and just because it has spark dosent mean it will run......Also this cannot be anything of the alternators doing....for gods sake its on 1 wire to hook up........If it had surged,not much of anything will work,as it would have blown every fuse in the fuse block

[badluckpony]

no didnt have msd on the car. If i did i would no what to do lol

[Badass1993]

no didnt have msd on the car. If i did i would no what to do lol

If all else fails,I should be down next weekend,I can ride over and see what we can figure out....I have a spare distrubitor we can swap in and try,as well as a few other choice parts:thumbsup1:

[badluckpony]

bring a gallon of gas and a good lighter too

[slonomo]

The module was replaced,it ran a minute then shut down again.this is why he is puzzled.is it possible a voltage spike popped the module again

[badluckpony]

put it on onebad1992's car ran fine unplugged it car idled up a little and cut off

[slonomo]

Dont have a clue

[badluckpony]

does anyone

[slonomo]

Negative

[badluckpony]

i got a gun lol

[slonomo]

I got a match

[badluckpony]

sent daracboy82 a pic of it lol

[badluckpony]

never done that to a stang before lol.

[slonomo]

**** it

[badluckpony]

now my cell is going dead.Cus you call to much lol or is it both ways lol

[slonomo]

So dont ask for help anymore

[badluckpony]

is someone getting mad???? :pray:for him:lol1::taunt:

[slonomo]

I DONT GET MAD:angry::angry::bat::bat:

[badluckpony]

he gets even????:angry::beerchug: and everything will be ok

[badluckpony]

now the starter went out..