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1sxyfox
01-25-2009, 02:40 PM
whats a good cam to run, with e-7 heads and i don't want to notch my pistons.

Badass1993
01-25-2009, 02:47 PM
A B or E303

1sxyfox
01-25-2009, 02:50 PM
forgot to mention its in a auto car not a 5 speed

Wayne's 88 GT
01-25-2009, 02:50 PM
mass air or speed density?

1sxyfox
01-25-2009, 02:53 PM
mass air also what rr should i go with 1.6's?

Silver91Hatch
01-25-2009, 02:53 PM
TFS Stage 1?? I like the sound and power of the TFS series. Also the Lunati 51014 I think will fit too.

MustangCRZY302
01-25-2009, 03:11 PM
E303, IMO, best bang for the buck.

Notch93
01-25-2009, 03:42 PM
TFS Stage 1?? I like the sound and power of the TFS series. Also the Lunati 51014 I think will fit too.

Either one of these would work great, I'm partial to the Lunati though.

Remember that since you have an AOD, that you will need a higher stall converter with any cam.

1sxyfox
01-25-2009, 03:48 PM
what stall would you go with then? i do drive it everyday so its not just a track car.

silverfox
01-25-2009, 03:55 PM
I ran E cam on my 5.0 with 351w heads, 1.94 intake /1.60 exhaust and rocker arms 1.6 and had no problem, if you stay under .525 lift you should be safe. :3gears:

Notch93
01-25-2009, 03:57 PM
what stall would you go with then? i do drive it everyday so its not just a track car.

What gears to you have in the rear?

I would go with around a 2,500-2,800 stall, at a minimum. Mines a daily driver, and it should stall in the 3,200-3,500 range.

SVTSkip
01-25-2009, 04:02 PM
A couple thoughts on the subject, take it for what you will:

I avoid the FRPP alphabet cams like the plague. They were good back in the day, but technology has definitely passed them by. That being said either the B, or E303 will fit your car without the pistons being notched as stated above, but I'd much rather see a TFS I cam in there instead, and they're cheaper at most sources to boot.

The E-7 heads however bring about a couple more points to consider, and they would be that the heads will become a restriction in unported form just as the cam is actually starting to get you some benefits, so I never use an aftermarket cam with stock heads. To me you're better off with a rocker ( 1.7 ) upgrade, and swapping to quality springs ( which you'll need with the cam anyway ) since the stockers are not intended for performance use, and are likely tired after many miles/years of use anyway. If you do decide to use one of the cams listed here, I'd say use a 1.6 rocker ( I like the Scorpions, and you'll need pedestal mount not the stud mount version ), and upgrade the springs.

A 2500 stall along with a good shift kit will do wonders for your AOD...

silverfox
01-25-2009, 04:02 PM
:What gears to you have in the rear?

I would go with around a 2,500-2,800 stall, at a minimum. Mines a daily driver, and it should stall in the 3,200-3,500 range. :thumbsup1:

Notch93
01-25-2009, 04:11 PM
The E-7 heads however bring about a couple more points to consider, and they would be that the heads will become a restriction in unported form just as the cam is actually starting to get you some benefits, so I never use an aftermarket cam with stock heads.


The stock lower will hurt more then the E7's, with a cam change. Ported lower with stock E7's and a mild cam will make for a fun street car.

I agree though, there are some pretty good running cars with the stock cam and 1.7 combo also.

Sphinxmunkey
01-25-2009, 04:14 PM
I agree with SVT, go with some 1.7 RR, and good springs.

SVTSkip
01-25-2009, 04:14 PM
^ I didn't know he was still running a stock intake. You're right if he is, the stock intake is going to be the choke point just before the heads sign off...

bonesgt
01-25-2009, 04:37 PM
Not completely stock, but close; the wife's 90GT is running the TFS Stage 1 with ported stock lower, and a set of 69 302 heads. All around great little street motor and good sound.:thumbsup1:

1sxyfox
01-25-2009, 05:51 PM
wow after seein what everyone is sayin i forgot to metion some important things i guess, the e-7's have been ported and im about to but my gt-40 intake on it, and 4.10's in the rear end, the tranny already has a shift kit in it

ToplessMarrine
01-25-2009, 05:57 PM
Well if you're gonna put an intake on it, and the heads are proted enough, than you should go ahead and go for the B-303 cam and get a little more lift. I am partial to the B-cam but not sure how good it is with E-7s. I know with 1.7 rockers its around .510 lift which is too much for E-7 springs so you would have to upgrade there. But I love the FRPP cams so I would go with an E or B cam. I am gonna run a B-cam with ported GT-40-X heads and Edelbrock RPM intake.

Blacksheep
01-25-2009, 07:14 PM
stay away from motersport cams, the sound "good" but the perfomance of them are about as good as a paper weight, TFS stage 1. Just my .02

1sxyfox
01-25-2009, 07:20 PM
on TFS stage 1 would you use 1.6rr with the E-7 heads?

Wayne's 88 GT
01-25-2009, 07:27 PM
Looks like there are alot of options here....fans of the alphabet cams.....TF Stage 1 cam......or you could go and get a custom cam made.

1sxyfox
01-25-2009, 07:29 PM
i thought about havin a custom cam but i don't want to do that till the final stages of the car, and that will be after some afr heads, a 331 kit, and a blower or turbo.

Notch93
01-25-2009, 08:40 PM
Since the heads have been ported, and your going with a GT40 intake. I would go with the Lunati 51014 or TFS stage 1 cam. No reason to go with a custom cam at your level (your not trying to squeeze ever HP out of the motor), and please stay away from the alphabet cams, they were good 20 years ago, but there is much better out there, like the two mentioned above. And stay with 1.6 rockers.

With 4.10's and the AOD. I would be looking in the 3,000 stall range for a converter. Just make sure if you don't have one already, put an external tranny cooler on the car.

Runningpony98
01-25-2009, 08:47 PM
do a little more work and put a good ole fashion wolverine in that thing and listen to beautiful sound

1sxyfox
01-25-2009, 08:51 PM
Since the heads have been ported, and your going with a GT40 intake. I would go with the Lunati 51014 or TFS stage 1 cam. No reason to go with a custom can at your level (your not trying to squeeze ever HP out of the motor), and please stay away from the alphabet cams, they were good 20 years ago, but there is much better out there, like the two mentioned above. And stay with 1.6 rockers.

With 4.10's and the AOD. I would be looking in the 3,000 stall range for a converter. Just make sure if you don't have one already, put an external tranny cooler on the car.


yep i have been lookin at external coolers already, don't want to burn anything up. got any ideas on where i can get a good one at.

87 GT vert
01-25-2009, 11:24 PM
im runnin a E303 and my car has been converted to mass air and i have a cobra intake setup along with stock heads and my car seems to run fairly stout i think but thats just my .02 its YOUR car go with YOUR gut but opinions can sway the decision to or from certain products but once again go with whatever you want to go with

LOWCOP
01-26-2009, 09:34 PM
bone stock heads and bottom end with the b-303 cam... works fine for me

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x298/LOWCOP/th_100_0010.jpg (http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x298/LOWCOP/?action=view&current=100_0010.flv)

1sxyfox
01-26-2009, 09:50 PM
sounds good. next question. do you have to pull the motor out any to install a cam, never really looked into it.

LOWCOP
01-26-2009, 09:54 PM
nope it only took a couple hours

1sxyfox
01-26-2009, 10:15 PM
anyone know someone that would wanna make some extra money, by installing one, im pretty good at workin on cars, other peoples that is, i get to "upset" at mine when i work on it.

SVTSkip
01-27-2009, 03:32 AM
I'd stick with the 1.6's for that combo.

you can do it in the car in a couple hours as stated, just be careful not to nick the cam bearings on removal/reinstall.

You shouldn't have too much trouble finding someone close by to help out for cold beer or something LOL !

quickred99
01-27-2009, 08:15 AM
i vote TFS stage 1 i have had it 2 cars